It’s the chance dangers that I’m afraid of — the senseless, unpredictable dangers of a world falling apart. Consider the physical risks of complex machinery in the hands of blind fools and fear-crazed cowards. … They’ll reach the stage where no day will pass without a major wreck.
Ain’t that the fuckin’ truth.
What was supposed to be a road trip to Tampa turned into a trip to Bizarro World, as the Saints defense held up their end of the bargain for once. The only thing familiar was the outcome, with the Saints snatching defeat from the jaws of victory yet again. But in Bizarro World, it was Drew Brees who gave the game away. Or at least that seems to be the general postgame consensus.
With all due respect to the thoughtful commentators, columnists, beat writers and bloggers out there who came to similar conclusions, I’m gonna have to go ahead and call bullshit.
Oh sure, on its face, that’s precisely what happened. It’s hard to argue with three interceptions, including two on the Saints’ final two possessions. It’s hard to argue with the defense "holding" the Bucs to 254 total yards and a "mere" 23 points.
But was it really Bizarro World? Or was it a typical Saints performance hiding behind a thin meteorological disguise? I’d argue that it was the latter.
The grim truth with this team is that on any given week, either Drew Brees has a near-perfect, MVP-caliber performance, or the Saints lose. Unfortunately, it’s just that simple. It’s all on Drew all the time. That he’s able to handle that as well as he does is a testament to his supernatural level of competence. It’s why we here at moosedenied refer to him as a god.
But the reality is that he’s not a god, he’s just the best quarterback in the league and inarguably the rightful most valuable player in the league.
Without Drew, this team is Detroit.
There are going to be times when Drew has a day that reminds us that he’s a mere mortal. The Saints are incapable of winning on those days. Without a running game and without a competent defense, the Saints simply don’t stand a chance without the kind of quarterback performance that cannot be reasonably expected every single week.
How spoiled have we become by Drew’s play, that a guy who put up 296 passing yards and two touchdowns in the rain and 20mph winds, to nine different receivers (who at the same time were also "credited" with nine dropped passes), against the 3rd best pass defense in the league, is the goat?
How spoiled are we that many of us continue to trot out the 0-17 when trailing at the end of the 3rd quarter stat, and claim that it shows that Drew isn’t "clutch?" Nevermind that Drew had 12 fourth quarter comeback wins in San Diego. Many of us seem all too eager to use that team stat as an excuse to assert that Drew "comes up small in big situations."
At the same time, only a Saints fan would heap praise on a defense that gave up 23 points, 149 yards on the ground and a 39-yard blown-coverage touchdown pass to a middling offense (16th in the league) in the same rain and 20mph winds. Only Saints fans would cheer such a C+ defensive performance that can be attributed largely to inclement weather. Only Saints fans would dance on the rooftops over the defense holding the Bucs to "THREE STRAIGHT PUNTS!!!"
Warrick Dunn was pushing the pile for an extra 2 yards, for crying out loud. Warrick fuckin’ Dunn! All five foot eight, one hundred sixty pounds of him.
This team has our expectations so out of whack that we’re grounding our A+ student for bringing home a B and buying our D student gifts for bringing home a C.
The reality is that the circumstances of this game, and the nature of both teams, were tailor-made for precisely the result we saw Sunday. It’s exactly what we should have expected. Bizarro World? Not by a long shot. It’s just what happens when a team like the Saints plays a team like the Bucs in a rainstorm. The Bucs are built for it and the Saints aren’t. Drew’s greatness was the main reason the game was close enough for Drew to "blow it" in the first place.
You’ll have to pardon me for not being impressed with giving up 23 points to a team that averages 23 points per game. Forgive me for assuming that had it not been for the rain and 20mph winds, the Bucs probably would have become the 6th opponent this year to score 30+ against this defense (with another scoring 29.) I’m sorry that I’m not exactly in the mood to throw a ticker tape parade over the defense giving up a whopping two fewer points than their 23rd ranked points-allowed average of 25.
Sure, the Saints "held" Fabulous Jeff to about 90 passing yards below his average and only nine completions on the day. Doesn’t that kinda stand to reason in a rainstorm? Isn’t it mitigated to a huge extent by the fact that they still got beat over the top for a 39-yard touchdown? Sure, they sacked Fab Jeff four times. Isn’t that mitigated by allowing him 42 rushing yards, which doubled his previous season-high?
This defense is Jim Taggart. They’re moochers. They take whatever the opponent’s incompetence and circumstances grant them, and then do a little dance and wait for the accolades to roll in on the rare occasion they meet the expectations of them, which rarely go beyond "Just don’t give up 30."
You know why the Saints did such a "great job" against the pass? Because in a rainstorm with 20mph winds, you run the ball. (To the tune of 149 yards, if you’re playing the Saints.)
Run the ball.
That is, unless you can’t.
This just in: the Saints can’t.
You know why the Saints threw the ball 47 times in a monsoon? Because they didn’t have any other choice. As usual.
Look, I’m not saying the Saints shouldn’t ever run the ball. Of course they should. Sure, there have been times when the Saints have been able to effectively run the ball for short periods of time in certain situations. Sure we all love Dulymus and Pierre, and we’d all like to think that the Saints are capable of winning a game on the ground, should Sean Payton ever choose to go that route. You can always point to specific plays where Sean Payton chose to pass, when conventional wisdom combined with our affection for our own backs suggests that running the ball would have been the better call. I’m not attempting to completely absolve Coach Clever Trousers of his pass-happy ways.
What I am saying is the same thing I’ve been saying for two years now. Under normal circumstances, the idea that passing almost 50 times in a monsoon against the league’s 3rd ranked pass defense gives you your best chance to win is sheer lunacy. But for this team, more often than not, it’s not lunacy. It’s the grim reality. They were rushing for 2.76 yards per carry, for crying out loud.
There’s legitimate value in "establishing the run" at the expense of accumulating yardage. I’ve always conceded that. But at what point does establishing the run become banging your head against a wall at the expense of your team’s chance to win? That point, for the Saints, is in a far different place than it is for most other teams. And I still insist that Sean Payton deserves a lot of credit for not letting conventional wisdom and personal fondness for his tailbacks blind him to that unfortunate fact.
It would be one thing if "establishing the run" were a one-step-back-two-steps-forward kind of proposition. But what indication is there that that would be the case for this team on any given week?
If I were an asshole, I’d trot out the following unbelievably annoying platitude: "It is what it is." But then I’d have to kill myself for actually having uttered that particular vapid 21st century catchphrase. So instead, in keeping with the theme, I’ll opt for the original… the one that actually carries meaning: "A is A."
This team is Drew Brees and whoever else he’s capable of carrying to victory on a given day. And the occasional single game where it appears otherwise is little more than the same old same old with a bit of a twist for variety’s sake.
Whenever you think you are facing a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong.
This loss isn’t on Drew. This loss is on the fact that Drew’s all we’ve got.
Atlas shrugged, and those who remained had just enough in ‘em to draw a little applause for their own accomplishments as it all came crashing down.



Great corollary to A.S. and great perspective on Brees and the running game. I can’t even log on to SR anymore because I want to vomit at every idiot that can’t spell as well as an intelligent 3rd grader, but thinks (a) Brees may be a choke artist and (b) “we get away from the run too quickly.”
How many times do we need to get stacked up for -2 before we can just say “F it” and throw the ball? How many 3rd and 1’s do we need to fail to convert by running behind one of our inept tackles before fans start bitching about Payton being too predictable again? I hate our fans and I hate our season…. but man, did you see the guns on Pakulak? That guy is a hoss. We should try him out at LB, or maybe OT
“I hate our fans and I hate our season… ”
Truth, S123SF. Truth.
I haven’t noticed Pakulak’s pythons, but yeah, apparently Payton likes his kickers ripped. Between Weatherford and Mehlhaff…
Best Article I’ve read on this game.
I think it’s a miracle that the Saints have as many wins as they do. Brees is not the problem with this team. Coaching, the running game, and defense are the main problems.
It’d be chocking if we had a stellar day on the ground, a dominating defense, and still lost.
I did a double take on your image because my sister and I both are reading Atlas Shrugged right now. Quite, timely, man. Timely.
We ought to be able to trade Reggie for about 3 early draft picks. Building a killer run protection should be the priority.
Oh, and S123SF, please don’t hate all the fans. My sister and I are loyal to the end. We don’t bitch (much).
Thanks, Superdeformed. Shame we haven’t “met” until now. I’ll be adding to the ole blogroll here shortly.
Seester, yeah, I hesitated for a second before seconding S123SF’s emotion there due to the whole broad brush thing. But I think we all understand what that particular generalization really means. I don’t think this here blog is all that friendly to the overly-literal anyway. Heh.
I’m actually quite surprised that there have been 5 comments so far, and there hasn’t yet been some pseudointellectual twit trying to shout me down for simply referencing anything Rand.
I really just hated Saints fans yesterday; I love ‘em on Sundays, and it was really just one or two, and mostly, I just hated their mentality.
Recipe for winning a championship in the Superbowl era:
1. Have a great quarterback. (check)
2. Run the football. (uh not even close)
3. Play defense. (riiiiiight)
4. Create Turnovers, and be in the plus category in turnover margin. (Not in the Sean Payton era)
5. Have a consistent kicking game. (We’ve only gone through 3 of them this season.)
When you can claim 1 out of 5… you are not a championship team. If we expected as much going into the season, we were fooling ourselves. I hate to say it, but it might be Marty Schottenheimer time. I know Marty’s playoff reputation, but wouldn’t it be nice to MAKE the playoffs year after year. Ask the San Diego Chargers if they want Marty back now! After three seasons, a team becomes a reflection of their coach. So how exactly does Sean Payton see his reflection?
Here’s how I see it: Consistent negative turnover margin, cannot get consistent defesive play (although i will give Payton, Loomis, and Gary Gibbs a little credit for the Vilma move this season), one-dimensional offensive game planning and personnel moves, has to run his pet plays every game (yes a reverse is one of them), not to mention shutting out the best player in the history of the franshise.
how many more ways can it be described before the Saints do it again and everyone has to quit blogging because they are completely speechless?
So here’s how i see it…
Knowing the shortcomings of our defense (see: they suck) it’s not completely out of the realm of reason to celebrate the fact that they didn’t suck as bad as they typically do. you see, if you’ve got a one-legged kid on your kick ball team, you’re gonna be happy if the only thing he manages to do is kick the ball. who cares how far it actually rolls? plus, they also ended up on the field a lot due to back to back 3 and outs and they managed to get the ball back in the hands of our offense at crucial points in the game. was it a stellar defensive performance? heck no. but the defense certainly put up a par performance considering what they are capable of and what the bucs are capable of offensively as well.
On the flip side, i don’t think any reasonable saints fan would walk away from Sunday’s game saying “drew sucks.” those who do should be shot. with that said, just because drew is superhuman every other game doesn’t mean we should pat him on the back for throwing 3 interceptions. no need to berate him, but no need to go down on him either. loving drew means being to call him out. he could have had more picks if the bucs defenders had held on to the ball. i wouldn’t trade easy breesy for any other qb in the world, but he was definitely the victim of a couple sunday afternoon brain farts in tampa.
as for our running game, we had i believe a total of four rushing attempts with pierre in the first half. i’m not saying we need 50/50 when it comes to play calling…but four rushing attempts with pierre and 0 with deuce? can u really get a strong sense of your running game based on that? doubtful.
in conclusion, this season blows. but there’s always the draft! go draft day ‘09!!
I enjoyed your post- very good stuff. The onky thing I will disagree with is…well…take a look at this:
Pierre Thomas 08 season avg. 4.6 yds per carry
07 4.8
career 4.7
Warrick Dunn 08 season avg. 4.4 yds per carry
07 3.2
career 4.1
Earnest Graham 08 season avg 4.3 yds per carry
07 4.0
career 4.1
De Angelo Williams 08 4.9
career 4.7
So i will make two points from this data- 1) we can run the ball- better than most are giving us credit for 2) If you give the ball to Reggie on running plays you will not get this level of performance which will make you think we have no running game.
you can’t expect an NFL RB to average more than 4.6 yards per carry- especially NFC (south and east moreso) it does happen sometimes, but most don’t
Damn. I’m really digging all the elbow grease going into these comments.
Philinwood, yeah, hard to argue with that. And for the record, I do wish Pierre would get more of a chance than roughly 10 carries a game, 4 or 5 times a season. By no means do I discount the possibility that Pierre is at least to a degree “the Answer.”
My rebuttal to that would be that so far, Pierre’s sample size is still really, REALLY small. And maybe that’s Sean Payton’s fault. But it’s still too small to make any kind of intelligent judgment (IMHO, anyway) about how he’d perform given a “full load” of 20 or so carries for a string of consecutive games. And as nice as those overall ypc stats look, there’s no question that he’s been kind of up and down. He’s put up some clunkers in games where he’s only gotten single digit carriers. And he was running for 3.1 last Sunday.
I do think that, as of right now, Pierre is the best tailback on the roster. I do think that he ought to get “more of a shot” and now that Dulymus is gone for the year, hopefully he will. I’ve seen just about enough of Mike Bell, thank you very much.
I just haven’t seen enough YET to convince me that the Saints could run the ball consistently and achieve the “balance” everybody’s craving so much with Pierre. That’s not to say that they couldn’t. I’m just saying they haven’t given it enough of a chance for me to say definitively that they could.
Good stuff, as usual, Mr. Wang. It’s hard to look at running stats, ypc, etc. and compare them to other backs because any time we do experience some success with the run, it was set up by the passing game. Deuce could still push ahead for his obligatory 3 to 4 yards, but any other decent runs came after Drew peppered the D with passing game.
I’m still cool with coach “Clever Trousers.” We just screwed the pooch too many times this year. We are on par with the rest of the NFC South, but the other three teams are pissing away games. Carolina and Tampa aren’t playing much better than us, just not as stupid. Hard as it is to admit, Atlanta is the most impressive. Well balanced and fundamentally sound. God, that was painful to type.
edit: but the other three teams aren’t pissing away games.
VERY articulate and lucid, Wang. You, sir, are no ordinary fan…
I’m still in the “we need to run the ball a little more” camp. But not to the degree that it’s 50-50, maybe more like 60-40 or 63-37.
For example, if Brees is throwing the ball 40 times in a game, that means we should be running the ball about 25 times.
Great post, Wang. I just take issue with the argument that the Saints cannot run the football.
I don’t expect the Saints to put up 150-200 yds and all of a sudden turn into the Steelers or Titans. However, I’m convinced that this team can grind out 90-120 yds. per game.
We don’t run the ball well because we never commit to it, get frustrated when it we don’t get yards, and run very poor running plays. Payton uses the running game as a gimmick, a gadget, something as a sideshow–it’s not integrated into the game plan.
What pissed me off in the Bucs game is that not only did the Saints NOT run the football, the offense lined in with 3-5 WRs and an empty backfield. In other words, they didn’t even try and fool the Bucs into playing the run. They showed their hand each and every hand. Running the football takes patience, attitude, and a coach who is committed to sticking to it even if it means a few 3 and outs. It also takes a coach to call the right kind of running plays.
Another point is that this rhythm that we incessantly refer to with Drew and the receivers also applies to the offensive line. They can’t very well get better or improve their run blocking (which pretty much blows) by not running the football.
So no, I don’t quite believe that the Saints are completely incapable of running the football. I think we’re unable largely because we’re unwilling.
Hey, Wang, keep writing about how we can’t run the ball.
I think Coach is reading, and you’re pissing him off and motivating him.
Nice work.